11 Editors & Agents on Websites and Public Dissing

Hi, everyone!

I have very strong feelings about these topics and out of curiosity, I wanted to see how agents and editors feel about professional websites and dissing agents/editors/publishers/other authors in public forums. Below are responses on this topic from several of the top agents and editors in publishing.

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“I always check out an author’s website and blog if I’m considering offering representation, and have in the past discovered nasty comments on blogs or message boards from authors—although that’s been from writers whose work I chose to pass on. Still, when you consider that the next book might have been “the one” it really doesn’t make sense to publicly “diss” me or any other agent/editor for that matter. You’d be amazed how many clients I didn’t sign on for that first book they submitted. I think the problem rests in authors taking a rejection as a personal affront. That’s why I prefer the word “pass” over the term “rejection” because it’s much less loaded, and much closer to the truth—it’s a temporary “pass” not an ultimate rejection. Oftentimes that first work that we see just isn’t the magic one, but a later manuscript turns out to be a perfect fit.” Deidre Knight, Literary Agent, The Knight Agency

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“If it’s a first time author, I don’t go looking for a website because I figure there isn’t one yet–unless the author or agent tells me that they have already put a website into place. For already published authors (print or electronic) I will pop over to their websites to check them out. It doesn’t sway my decision about the book, but if it’s a good website it can give me a good initial feeling for the author’s savvy and their ability to reach out to the audience.” Monique Patterson, Senior Editor, St. Martin’s Press

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“I don’t have time to check things all the time, but yes, I definitely think that having a professional website/blog is important. When I do check things out, I’ve been amazed at what people will say on the web, and then be surprised that someone else knows about it.

If they wouldn’t say it to the person directly, then they shouldn’t put it on a site/blog, imo….

Of course, I also believe that applies to editors, publishers, reviewers, etc. as well.” Diana Gill, Executive Editor, HarperCollins

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“Yes, I do take a look at the author’s website to get a feel for her personality, what it would be like to work with this person, if she would be receptive to my comments about her work. I would want my relationship with authors to be professional and respectful, so I’d expect to see that on any blog. And if a published author is unhappy about something, I think she should go directly to her editor to address the problem. Posting complaints on a blog rather than communicating with your editor is just unprofessional as well as counterproductive.” Erika Tsang, Senior Editor, Avon Books
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Yes, I will review an author’s presence on the web–how they present themselves visually and the content of their website or blog. In today’s marketplace, having a professional look to your website is as important appearing and behaving professionally in public. More and more people are learning to use the internet and having their visit to your “world” easy to navigate and pleasant in appearance is very crucial–not everyone has the same equipment or could be visually challenged. Samhain’s marketing guru has set up an advertising group and has regular classes on topics such as this.

How can an author be taken seriously as an author when they use a free hosting services like geocities? eBook authors have a harder row to hoe, this is one area they should pay serious attention to. I liken a sloppy website to wearing ratty clothes to a public appearance, it doesn’t show you take who you are seriously.” Christina M. Brashear, Publisher, Samhain Publishing LTD.
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“I do check out the websites of authors I’m considering, and I am absolutely influenced by the tone of the dialog (or, more accurately I suppose, the monolog).

All the maxims you hear in life hold true in webworld: ‘no one likes a complainer, if you can’t say anything nice, don’t say anything at all, don’t air your dirty laundry, it’s better to be silent and thought a fool than to open the mouth and prove it to be true’; and let’s not forget that what you complain about often reveals your own flaws more clearly than what you’re complaining about. I could go on, but you get the idea. In two words: sour grapes!

Now, I’m the first person to realize that publishing is a frustrating and sometimes seemingly incompetent business, but the minute someone blames another for their lack of success the usual impression it leaves is:
a)an unwillingness to take responsibility for their own mistakes,
b) a personality that I don’t necessarily want to deal with (if they complain about x. will they complain about me? will they ever be satisfied?),
c) (most often) a person with only a partial grasp of how publishing works, and
d) a lack of judgment and/or common sense (who knows who’s looking at your site?! Not everyone is trustworthy or rooting for your success– come on, people, get a clue!)

If the writing is absolutely fabulous, would that stop me? Let’s just say, the more obstacles there are, the more amazing the work has to be. Who needs that kind of handicap?” Nancy Yost, Literary Agent, Lowenstein-Yost Associates Inc.

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“When I get a manuscript in that I do really like, I usually check the author’s website to get a sense of their previous books and how they market themselves. It’s rare that I read blogs in situations like these, just because of time constraints. But nothing sends a red flag up faster than an author badmouthing people in the business. Publishing is a small world–you’ve got to be careful not to burn any bridges because you never know what might happen or who might end up where. And a quick google search means anyone can find it…and forward the link along to everyone they know.” Michele Bidelspach, Assistant Editor, Warner Books

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“I am probably the last person to ask about blogs as I never visit them or read them. Occasionally I hear about the gossip and am surprised. Authors should consider themselves to be writing professionals; I can’t imagine other professionals in our business (editors, agents, sales people, etc.) dissing one another in a public forum. We may talk privately, but it’s important to know where and when and to whom to say what.

Yes, I usually do check an author’s website if I’m interested in buying, but mainly it’s to fill in missing information (usually about publishing history) from the agent’s or author’s pitch letter. A good website is certainly a plus!” Audrey LaFehr, Editorial Director, Kensington Publishing Corp.
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“Research on a potential new author for my list if vital. When I get a query, I generally check out the author’s website and blog (if listed). If they have previously sold, I use bookscan and check out their sales figures and review previous books on Amazon. I think a professional website is a key selling tool for connecting with readers and should be professional. It should not only deliver a sense of the author’s personality, but also give a sense of mood their book (or books) are trying to portray. A couple of things each website should have is a history of previously published and upcoming books, an author bio, and a guest log. The guest log is super important because it allows you to contact readers when you have news to share (like an upcoming book). Many authors also have a blog on their website. Again, this should be professional in nature. Since not only readers but also editors and agents check out websites and blogs, authors should tread carefully about airing their grievances in public. You want to promote a positive image and this is your platform to do just that.” Paige Wheeler, Literary Agent, Folio Literary Management.
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“When I receive a manuscript I really love, I often go to the author’s website (if she has one) to see if there are any reviews, interesting notes in her bio, etc., because I’m already thinking of how we can market the story. I might take a look at a blog entry to or two, but, to be honest, I don’t spend much time on that because there are always loads of other things to do. What the website tells me more than anything is what accomplishments the author has and how savvy she is about knowing what other people will want to know. Of course, this is all just for reference and is hardly make-or-break when it comes to buying the book. I’ve been fortunate in that I haven’t come across any public complaints about agents or editors, which would definitely raise a red flag.” Leah Hultenschmidt, Editor, Dorchester Publishing
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“When I receive a project from a literary agent that really piques my interest, one of the first things I do is check out the author’s website, if it’s given. I think well maintained websites are a must in todays publishing world — it gives me an excellent idea of an author’s self-promotion abilities and an instant understanding of their level of professionalism.” Signe L. Pike, Assistant Editor, The Random House Publishing Group

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Some food for thought for all of the authors regarding maintaining an up-to-date professional-looking website–and truly not only agents and editors agree, but it’s just common sense to avoid public dissing.
Not long ago, at a conference, I heard an HQ editor talk about dissing–an author was griping on a blog about how long the editor was taking, etc. etc., and the editor said the work was good, but she will *never* buy anything from that author because of her public griping about said publisher and editor. If you’re going to gripe, do it in private with a friend who won’t forward your email to someone else.

I’d like to thank all of the agents and editors who took the time to respond to my questions. I appreciate you all!

Chey

45 comments
  1. Alexis Morgan comments:

    Great post, Chey! Whenever I talk to people just starting out in this business, I always tell them that using good manners and common sense will go a long way toward smoothing their way. Like these folks say, do your complaining in private with a trusted friend, not in a public forum because there’s no taking it back once it’s out there.

    June 26, 2007 at 8:55 am. Permalink.

  2. Michelle Rowen comments:

    Yes, excellent post, Chey! I’ve been blogging for a few years now and never say anything negative about anybody except myself. ;-) I also read other blogs and see writers tallying up their rejections or giving away complete plots and characters that they’re working on. A blog is not a diary and you never know who might be reading it. You should be natural on it, but don’t reveal too much of that soft underbelly. ;)

    June 26, 2007 at 9:51 am. Permalink.

  3. Dawn Chartier comments:

    Hi Chey ~
    This is very useful information. I’m a writer and couldn’t decide if I should do a website or not because I wasn’t published. I went for it, and I love it. Everyone gives me great feedback on it, and it just makes me feel good about myself as a writer, more professional, if that makes since? I think if you are serious about writing you need to show it and investing in a great site “Your Home”, then that is the way to go. Why would anyone ever complain on a site/blog? That’s just silly. The site is your “tone”, and if you are negative. No need to say more.

    Dawn Chartier
    http://dawnchartier.com

    June 26, 2007 at 9:59 am. Permalink.

  4. Marissa comments:

    Very interesting, and exactly what I was thinking. Authors are professionals, and they, in a way, are in sales. They want people to read their books, so they need to sell it to the reader. And in my eyes, the reader is the customer, and in writing/reading as it is in most businesses, the customer is always right. Some authors don’t see it that way, but the smart ones, the ones who care about their readership, do.

    June 26, 2007 at 10:28 am. Permalink.

  5. Erin Grady comments:

    Chey, great post. Thanks for sharing!

    June 26, 2007 at 10:33 am. Permalink.

  6. Denise A. Agnew comments:

    Excellent topic Chey. I’m glad you brought it up. :)

    Denise A. Agnew

    June 26, 2007 at 11:41 am. Permalink.

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    June 26, 2007 at 11:50 am. Permalink.

  8. Jordan comments:

    Great post! I’m not surprised by the responses at all.

    June 26, 2007 at 11:52 am. Permalink.

  9. Charlene Teglia comments:

    Good stuff, Chey, and I’m not surprised to hear that agents and editors are increasingly web-savvy! Anything posted online, even in a ‘private’ group or forum, can be forwarded or found in a Google search. This really isn’t new, there have been cases of employees fired or not hired on the basis of things they put in email or in their blogs for a few years now, so of course it applies to the publishing business as well.

    June 26, 2007 at 12:07 pm. Permalink.

  10. Ciar Cullen comments:

    Wonderful insight, Chey. Thanks for this!

    June 26, 2007 at 1:44 pm. Permalink.

  11. Lis comments:

    Great post Chey! Its interesting to see just how many agents/editors do check the writers out that way

    June 26, 2007 at 2:01 pm. Permalink.

  12. Susan Yarina comments:

    Excellent, Chey. As authors we are nearly always in the public eye and we need to act accordingly. It never hurts to treat people with grace and dignity. I enjoyed hearing from the editors and agents who responded, too. It makes me look at my own web site more critically. Thanks.

    June 26, 2007 at 3:18 pm. Permalink.

  13. Melissa Lopez comments:

    Thanks, Chey!

    Fantastic topic!
    ~Mel

    June 26, 2007 at 3:56 pm. Permalink.

  14. Jennifer Ashley comments:

    Thanks for posting this, Chey, and for gathering the information. I like hearing what publishing professionals have to say. I have to agree that an author’s presence on the web should use the same rules as when we go to an appearance or give a workshop–what we say and how we look is very important. Even more so on the web, because it’s in print, which means it will last as long as someone has it in their files!

    When the Internet first got big, there was a saying that you shouldn’t write anything in an email or on a website that you don’t want on the front page of the newspaper the next day. It could happen! :-)

    June 26, 2007 at 5:23 pm. Permalink.

  15. Ann Bruce comments:

    Great post! I’m going to take a critical look at my website now.

    June 26, 2007 at 6:17 pm. Permalink.

  16. Marie Harte comments:

    Great information. A website says a lot about an author, and for epubbed authors is probably the number one promotional tool. Interesting to note how many editors/agents actually look at a submitting author’s website. I feel foolish for not having considered this, focusing more on readership. (But I’m not worried. I don’t post anything on my website that doesn’t pertain to my writing career. ) I took a look at other authors I read and respected and tried to fashion the content of my website after theirs.

    Thanks again for the valuable insight. :)
    Marie

    June 26, 2007 at 8:19 pm. Permalink.

  17. N.J. Walters comments:

    Fascinating post, Chey! Thanks for taking the time to gather all this information.

    June 26, 2007 at 9:42 pm. Permalink.

  18. Ann Jacobs comments:

    Great post, Chey! I’m surprised at how many editors and agents peruse a potential author’s website, but *not* surprised that they cringe away from the person who has a habit of dissing fellow authors, publishers, etc. on their site or blog.

    Perhaps my website’s due for a makeover, quicker than I thought! What seemed perfect two years ago now seems not as great as it did when I first had it designed!

    June 27, 2007 at 8:00 am. Permalink.

  19. Mychael comments:

    It still amazes me when I see authors complaining in public. No, this business isn’t perfect, but there’s a time and place for everything. Public-accessible places are *not* the ideal places for broadcasting your grievances. Thanks for the great article!

    June 27, 2007 at 9:02 am. Permalink.

  20. Vivi Anna comments:

    Amen! That’s all I’m sayin’!

    June 27, 2007 at 10:09 am. Permalink.

  21. Vivi Anna comments:

    Amen! That’s all I’m sayin’!

    I hope all authors come over and read these statements.

    June 27, 2007 at 10:10 am. Permalink.

  22. Carrie Weaver comments:

    Great discussion, Chey!! Sometimes in cyber space we tend to forget the common sense guidelines for good communication.

    June 27, 2007 at 11:46 am. Permalink.

  23. Laurie Schnebly Campbell comments:

    What a wonderful collection of answers — thanks for putting that all together, AND for thinking of such a great question!

    June 27, 2007 at 11:48 am. Permalink.

  24. Kelly Kirch comments:

    It shouldn’t surprise me that people use their blog to diss others, but it always does. I can’t imagine attacking anyone on a blog. The industry is so close, so tied together and bad behavior will only result in career suicide.

    I wouldn’t sign with an agent or an editor who treated an author this way. Why should I expect a member of industry to feel any differently about representing a disruptive author?

    June 27, 2007 at 1:40 pm. Permalink.

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    June 27, 2007 at 4:03 pm. Permalink.

  27. Franny Armstrong comments:

    THINK THUMPER:
    As in the movie BAMBIE, Thumper said: “If you don’t have anything nice to say, then don’t say anything at all.” Mother’s words were well remembered.
    In the world of writing, should we not be positive mentors of our trade? People are too ready to cut others down. Turn it around and point out the good points of an editor/agent/publisher/author/etc…and you’ll find that it comes back to you ten times that amount in trade. Be kind. Talk nice.
    Franny

    June 27, 2007 at 4:57 pm. Permalink.

  28. Ember comments:

    Fabulous insight on how what we blog can really make us look.
    Thanks Chey!

    June 28, 2007 at 7:28 am. Permalink.

  29. EC Sheedy comments:

    Great stuff! Particularly helful to this writer who just updated her page–and learned that she forgot one or two things.
    Thank you!

    June 28, 2007 at 9:18 am. Permalink.

  30. T. M. Moore comments:

    In general I don’t believe in blogs because what one writes in it conveys too much of one’s private self or mood that day. I have published two books so far, but my site does not have a blog page. I am about selling to the reader so I concentrate on the books, not what I’m wearing or how I feel about things that irritate me.

    So far the people I have seen who tend to publish disrespectful comments don’t seem to be aware of the damage they are causing themselves in the process. It’s much better to keep the invective to a minimum, imo. If you disagree, do so, but in a firm and polite manner. Namecalling and labeling is both unprofessional and immature.

    June 28, 2007 at 11:26 am. Permalink.

  31. Ginger comments:

    Thanks for sharing such an interesting exchange of ideas. I enjoyed reading how different agents respond. My work has been ‘passed over’ before, and I totally understand that given the large number of people vying for representation, it must be quite a daunting task to select a few from the pool.

    I’ve only blogged about one instance, and my feelings still hold true. I dare say that we all have busy lives, yet authors are expected to adhere to the guidelines on each agent’s site,and sometimes each have very different requirements. It’s very time consuming to put together the perfect query, synopsis and manuscript, and so disheartening to receive a form letter back that begins, ‘Dear Author.” In this day and age of mail merge programs, in my humble opinion, there is no reason to show such a lack of respect for the effort an author has shown. The agents set the hoops and we jump through them, praying to be one of the impressive. I guess my old old-fashioned idea of at least identifying your intended recipient stems from years of handling thousands and thousands of applications to graduate school, reviewing each, and having to respond. We were never allowed to send a ‘canned’ letter that at the very least didn’t have the person’s name in the salutation. To me, “Dear Author” conveys a picture that isn’t the least bit encouraging. It’s like using ‘but’–everything after it is negated.

    I’m laughing at myself. Years ago I wouldn’t have had the courage to send this, but it’s funny how the older one gets, the more opinionated they become. I’m still not giving up. I have a manuscript that I know one of these ladies will love. :)

    Thanks again, Chey!

    June 28, 2007 at 12:48 pm. Permalink.

  32. Eden Robins comments:

    Thanks for sharing this valuable perspective, Chey. It’s good to know.

    June 28, 2007 at 9:03 pm. Permalink.

  33. Naughty Nikki Duncan comments:

    Well said. I’m always amazed when I hear people badmouthing the industry professionals, or doing anything else that lacks professionalism. It may be my unpublished writer frame of mind, but why do anything that would shoot you in the foot later down the line? Even published authors hurt themselves by such behavior, and when I come across one, I make it a point not to buy their book as I don’t want to tie myself to that kind of attitude in any way.

    June 29, 2007 at 8:47 am. Permalink.

  34. Renee Russell comments:

    Amen, Chey! Thanks for the great post. As a new author myself, I understand a lot of the frustration, but that’s just how the business works. I can’t imagine someone would cut their own throat professionally in this way, yet I’ve seen examples of it myself.

    Renee

    June 29, 2007 at 3:06 pm. Permalink.

  35. Nonny Morgan comments:

    Thanks, Chey! :)

    I’m constantly amazed by the shit that some writers post on their blogs. If you’re pursuing a career as a professional, then be professional. Dissing an editor, agent, or publisher is not cool — and even if your romance is the hottest thing since J. R. Ward, there’s a good chance they’ll pass because they don’t like your attitude.

    Say what you like in private. Publishing is a frustrating industry and sometimes you’ve got to vent. But don’t take it public.

    June 29, 2007 at 9:56 pm. Permalink.

  36. Shiloh Walker comments:

    Some food for thought for all of the authors regarding maintaining an up-to-date professional-looking website–and truly not only agents and editors agree, but it’s just common sense to avoid public dissing.

    Here here!

    July 1, 2007 at 9:06 pm. Permalink.

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